More John Ankerberg and Garner Ted


Many people enjoyed my posting of one the older editions of Christian apologist and cult-watcher John Ankerberg’s show with the late Garner Ted Armstrong. I am glad that many liked it. I have a couple more clips from another show (older edition) with him talking with the late Walter Martin, the founder of the Christian Research Institute and the original Bible Answer Man—way before the rise of Hank Hanegraaf, which was shortly after Dr. Martin’s passing waaay to soon (at 60 years young!) in 1989. There is a brief mention of Armstrongism among the other cults. The other clip is strictly an excerpt from a sermon GTA gave and I am glad he says what he says. Those in Armstrongism  have an aversion to all things Protestant and have a warped mentality of “If Protestant’s teach this, it is wrong!” Well, Protestants teach murder is wrong—is that a wrong teaching? Protestant’s teach adultery is wrong—is it okay? Of course, Armstrongites are quick to disagree on that. Garner Ted, had his flaws and his well known hangups, but on this point he had the testicular fortitude to say that his church has a “protestant” influence when it comes to worship! It would have been nice Garner Ted if you took the GCI from a “para-protestant” organization to a fully orthodox Protestant denomination (and doing a better job transitioning of such than what Joe Jr. did to Worldwide, of course!). Hey, John Ankerberg would have been willing to go over trinitarian doctrine with you for a month! John had the time, he had the beer (maybe it was Miller Beer). I can only hope that the CGI and the ICG as individual members (forget the ministers) can maybe pick up the pieces…


Guess What I found on


As one who was using Canada Day for relaxation and surfing the net, I discovered on  an episode of The John Ankerberg Show (circa  early 1980’s) debating scripture with none other than the late Garner Ted Armstrong who was then in charged of his then “baby”—The Church of God, International which was in it’s early stages after he left Worldwide back in 1978. For those who don’t know John Ankerberg, he is a Christian apologist who also specializes in defending the essentials of historic Christian faith against abberant religious groups and cults. John, though firm in his beliefs (and in many cases rightly so), he seems like a nice guy. I have bought John’s small booklet that deals with the triune nature of God some time ago and he makes a wonderful case in proving Christ’s deity. These 13 clips below are great for a Bible study and a help for a person who wants to make their final defection from Armstrongism. I would like to see John Ankerberg do another show interviewing and debating the splinters, preferrable someone from the UCG or even David Hulme of CGIC. The reason I am choosing these two entities because they are probably they are the less strident than the more extreme folks like Flurry, Meredith, Pack, etc. You will have admit the late GTA on the show was really smoooth. Wrong in many areas of his theology but still smooth. Enjoy the clips.