You Should Fear a Charismatic-Pentecostal Theocracy

467px-Sarah_Palin_portraitOn this blog, I tried to have a series of posts on an Armstrongist theocracy in North America whether in Canada or the United States. It is a shuddering thought but it is a necessary thought to make darn sure that any kind of theocracy NEVER EVER creeps in a  continent like North America that values the democratic way in all aspects of our governance.

On my other blog, The Independent Thinker (which formerly called The Way I See It, Anyway) I expressed my fear of a Sarah Palin presdiency in 2012. Thankfully, political pundits are saying that her chances are slim and I literally pray to God that it stays that way. I mentioned one of the reasons I do not wish a Palin presidency is because of her charismatic Pentecostal background. My post was picked up on another blog, a more famous one called Booker Rising and one person who was of charismatic Pentecostal background took offence and concluded that I was a bigot.  For those who know and read my works that this is not case. I am not against the people in charismatic-Pentecostal expression of Christian faith  but have deep reservations over a theology (and dare I say religious ideology)  that is chauvenistic towards rigourous study and independent rational thinking and therefore  overemphasizes ecsatic experiences as a test of  spirituality.

Thank God there is a website that is challenging the excesses of charismatic Pentecostal theology and they had a message board site (by the name of Azusa Street Survivors). One person  imagines a country runned by a charismatic Pentecostal theology. What he details in his theory is not a pleasant picture. In other words, where a  state religion  is intrusive into the politics and governance of a nation it is never good. Dare I say “Iran?”

I had to post Sarah Palin for attention and an excuse for my friend James Pate to drool over. There was one picture that I wanted to show James (and he would definately be hot and steaming in a pleasurable way) but I felt I had to show the “real deal“. 🙂

Suppose that somehow, Pentecostals managed to take over a small country or part of a larger country and decided to create a Pentecostal theocracy…How would it come about, what would it do, what would it look like and how long would it last? Feel free to be as evil or snarky as you want with your ideas.

My personal theory is that something like this would come about through Pentecostals gaining control of a regional or state government and manipulating a vote on secession from a larger country.
Of course, all minorities, non-Christians (meaning non-Pentecostals) and women instantly became second class citizens. Abortion became illegal, and birth control became so expensive only those with connections and lots of money could even afford it. The living standards for the common people went down, while those of government officials, preachers, and the other elites went up even more. Of course, unrealistic economic expectations combined with it actually being illegal to forecast anything other then stellar economic growth combined with bad management practices to cause problems. It wasn’t very long before the theocracy ran out of money. Then it got invaded both because of serious human rights violations and because the neighboring countries decided to collect on defaulted loans and whatnot the old fashioned way.
Of course, this wasn’t helped by the theocracy declaring its soldiers to be God’s invincible army. When the other side’s forces crossed the border, the generals told the theocrats that the military was ready. Of course they neglected to mention that they’d sold a lot of its supplies…food and fuel and spare parts…on the black market and then just made up the readiness reports as they went along. God would provide, after all, and He would not let an invader trouble His country, would He?
Worse, the invasion hit at around 10 AM on a Sunday morning, ensuring that because of mandatory church attendance for all but the most vital corporate,government, and military personnell (and with law enforcement enforcing this) that the invaders have at least an hour or two before they would have to worry about much of a response.
That was more then they needed because the air defense radars didn’t work (money for maintenance and software upgrades had been spent to pay the units tithes) all but a few of the fighter jets were grounded due to lack of fuel and spare parts (but the airbase had a new chapel that was all decked out) most of the tanks wouldn’t start (simple incompetance) and the patrol boats were tied up alongside their piers…all the boats worked fine and their machine guns were even loaded and ready to rock (but the chaplains,who had almost as much power as their commanders, had a lot of the sailors doing extra duty that morning, assisting the chaplains with blessing places in the neighboring towns and warding them against demons.) While there was some scattered fighting as some airmen, sailors, and soldiers managed to arm themselves and follow pre-set battle plans (though they were effectively mostly light infantry fighting against a mechanized force) the civilian theocracy first panicked, then tried to bribe the invaders, then made a lot of threats that God would rain fire down on the attackers. No one was impressed. No fire fell from the sky. Within a few hours, even as the theocrats threatened to have the generals shot for treason, the invaders took over the theocracy’s capital.

Money, or rather the Pentecostal obession with money, and general lack of responsibility would be the end of the Pente-ocracy. That’s my theory anyway.

WTF—this is child abuse!!!

…and you know that WTF does not stand for “what the food production” but you know what! Thanks to blogger Ironwolf’s message board, I found  this strange ministry for children called Kidz In Combat. Here is one poster’s description of it and asks:

Does anybody else think this seems rather disturbing?
Has anybody seen anything like it before?





A special message from David Walters
Some people think that if kids die when they are young, they will go to heaven. They believe this, because they think kids are innocent, but they are wrong. We know that God loves kids, (the first thing He told Adam and Eve to do was to have kids.) God wanted kids to be like Him, but Adam and Eve, our great, great, great, great, etc. etc. grandparents messed up and so a lot of kids have turned up behaving more like the devil, than God.
 So Listen Kids
You don’t go to heaven because your cute. You don’t go to heaven because your a kid. You only go to heaven if you have had you’re sins washed in the blood of Jesus and you have made Him your Lord and Savior.

Found on this page :-

I found that statement very disturbing it seems like Mr.Walters has no care for Isaiah 7 where it discusses age of accountability.  I would love get Aggie and Russ to really let this guy David Walters really, really have it! Some people will question, “Well Felix, don’t you believe that Jesus is THE ONLY WAY to salvation???” Yes, I do—but I believe it is God that does the calling and God does the saving—not us puny humans who seem to have a need to make a “hellocentric” gospel to frighten people into God’s love. We should preach the “good news” and treat it as “good news”. My problem with a “hellocentric” gospel it makes the recipients neurotic at best and very narcissistic and self-absorbed at worst.  Exposing children under 12 to this nonsense does no one any good in the long run. This EXACTLY reminds what I saw in the documentary movie Jesus Camp.

When I have kids (hopefully in the next few years)—I don’t want them exposed to this nonsense either.  I can share the sentiment in Kid Rock’s song “Amen’ where he sings about being scared of sending his child to church. As one of the posters on Ironwolf’s blog rightly says, “Leave the kids alone, just let them be kids!” Trust me, if any church has a problem with that simple request (and that request is not that hard!)—I am having none of their defiance! None of it! Don’t test me!

 Here’s more assertions from the website:

Kids that have been in David Walter’s meetings have been anointed (used powerfully) by the  Holy Spirit to do great things for God. 
  We have seen kids shake, fall down, cry, and get right with God after they have heard the preaching and been prayed for the Holy Spirit to touch them.   
Many of them have seen angels, heaven and hell, and visions of Jesus. As the kids have got to know God in a real way, He has started to use them. Maybe God is calling you to be RADICAL, if so click on the word Join in the colored menu below. If you have already joined God’s army, click on the word Victory.These kids are being psychologically indoctrinated. Nothing more. I will even direct you to a site on my old blog where a video describes the Pentecostal movement is NOT of God and an ex-Pentecostal refutes this type of abuse. Here is the location at As with any Pentecostal-charismatic group, DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE!