J does it again…more satire against Armstrongism!

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Can’t get enough of satire against the religious stupidity in the cult of Armstrongism? Get your full dose on J’s sister blog COG Humor and get a bellyfull of laughs against the religious stupidity that you once had to reckon with. Go to http://coghumor.blogspot.com/ receive a good dose of medicine for the soul! And yes, J, I am hoping this site will last for decades to come, tormenting the leaders of the XCG who cannot handle satire (and never will)!

Add comment March 31, 2008

Seems like good advice to me

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7 comments March 31, 2008

Intelligent quote of the day

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“So all atheists; all Sabbath breakers; all celebrators of Easter and Xmas; all despisers of the Holy Scriptures, by equating it with pagan writings, and haters of HWA will not be in God’s kingdom!”

Theres 99.999% of the world right there. Nice that you have shown a mass judgement to the entire world. Who put you in the place of God, Tom? Did God say HWA haters wouldn’t be in the Kingdom, or did you? Who gave you the right to make that judgement?

If Tom would look at 1 Corinthians 6, he would see that the Bible is clear about who will not inherit the Kingdom of God: Lets see. Immoral, idolaters, adulterers, theives, greedy people, drunks, slanderers, swindlers, to name a few. What you dont find here is emphasis on celebrators of easter, christmas, and “haters” of a man named Herbert Armstrong.

If Tom was God, his way of judging people’s entrance into the Kingdom is clear. “Did you keep Christmas? Did you Keep Easter? Did you accept HWA? Do you hate Herbert Armstrong? DO YOU?” Seriously, does one REALLY think that is God’s standard for admittance into his kingdom? That’s spiritually immature thinking. Tom is thinking like a pharisee, and doesn’t even recognize that he is thinking, acting, and speaking like a pharisee - in fact a pharisee of pharisees - focusing on the standards of traditions and law keeping, days, and the physical instead of focusing on the matters of the spiritual - which, if one does a good exegesis of the bible, and especially the book of John, was what Jesus was trying to do - get them to quit thinking in the manner of the physical, including traditions and days, and start looking at the reality of the spiritual, now that Christ had come.

Tom, I’m glad you don’t sit on the throne of God casting judgement on the world. With you in charge, no one would stand, and you would condemn without a second thought based on observances on days and seasons and years. But I don’t have to worry about that - in my belief and worldview, Christ is on the throne and will be the one casting judgement, not you. Thank God for that.

—J of Shadows of WCG comments in Gavin’s Ambassador Watch blog about a hard-core, ultra-conservative Armstrongite’s view on God standards of righteousness and thanks that God alone will be the rightful judge, not a hardline XCGer.

5 comments March 25, 2008

Remembering the reason for this season

During this Holy Week season I wanted to show this clip from the movie The Robe (1953) starring the late Richard Burton and Jean Simmons. This the ending scene where Burton’s character Marcellus faces the wicked Emperor of Rome, Caligula and warns that a kingdom of Christ will come and end all evil, tyranny and injustice once and for all. Of course, the thug for emperor does not like this message and eventually sends the “Christian” soldier Marcellus and his fiance to death. Talk about standing up and dying for a noble cause. I wish all a happy and meaningful happy Holy Week.

Add comment March 22, 2008

Is their lessons from Passover for today???

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As the Passover season approaches in mid-April, wife of Dwight Pryor (Centre of Judaic Christian Studies fame), Kareen Hannah gives perspective of how the Exodus Passover has still relevant lessons today. Read the PDF article at http://www.jcstudies.com/assets/pdf/PASSOVER-TheClashofCultures.pdf.

Add comment March 20, 2008

Another masterpiece from James

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James Pate (as always) GETS it! I really enjoy in his blog on his tirades against clap-happy evangelicalism, cold Calvinism and dares to duke it out with God over the injustice in the world—especially the injustice on good people while the wicked continue their party and as a consequence other people of faith urge him just to shut his mouth, dummy up,leave his brain at the door and just simply have “faith” in the most shallowly nebulous way and in turn defies their demands. He says, the prophets were angry at God—why should I? Why the difference? Why is there a NEED for a difference? Does the New Testament tell us to shut up and the prophets had somehow permission? Isn’t God the same, yesterday, today and forever—or they are “just words”—or “living active words”?! Those who demand and scream “cookie cutter”, “neatly packaged”, “smiley, smiley” answers (I think these type of people have the flu bug of the “tyranny of niceness” than anything else)—James again defies them!  Here is an excerpt from his post on his blog on March 18th  titled Malachi Reflections:

“You have spoken harsh words against me, says the LORD. Yet you say, ‘How have we spoken against you?’ You have said, ‘It is vain to serve God. What do we profit by keeping his command or by going about as mourners before the LORD of hosts? Now we count the arrogant happy; evildoers not only prosper, but when they put God to the test they escape.’”Incidentally, this passage has also been used to club me over the head. One time, I was getting into a debate with a Calvinist lady. I was struggling with the problem of evil and the Calvinist portrayal of God, which doesn’t exactly present him as all that loving (in my opinion). She replied that Malachi 3:16 applies to people like me: those who question God. She seemed to imply that I should stop asking questions and just have faith.I then pointed out that there are godly people in the Bible who question God and wrestle with the way he does things. God was about to wipe out Sodom, and Abraham questioned if God would be just to destroy the righteous with the wicked. When God threatened to annihilate Israel because of the Golden Calf incident, Moses disagreed with him. The Psalmist often complains about God’s failure to stop evildoers. Don’t question? Apparently, there were biblical figures who never heard of that rule.

I’ve often heard that I should be honest with God, even if that involves expressing my problems with him. When I was growing up in the Armstrongite movement, one preacher I really enjoyed was Ron Dart. He said, “One thing you can say about the Psalmist, it is that his prayer was honest. If you hate God, then you’d might as well tell him, because he already knows.” And that is the sort of advice that I’m getting from Philip Yancey’s Prayer: Does It Make a Difference?

But here’s my struggle: There are times when people in the Bible do question God, and they get punished as a result. For example, in Numbers 13-14, the Israelites weep because there are giants in the land of Canaan and they are reluctant to conquer it. God punishes them with forty years in the wilderness and the promise that they will never see the land. “But not everybody has strong faith,” I thought. “I’d be scared too! What was wrong with them being honest with God about their fears? Aren’t we supposed to be honest?”

And, in Malachi, God expresses clear disapproval with what many Israelites are saying. “God doesn’t love me.” “There’s no point to serving God.” “God gives the wicked a free ride.” But weren’t they just being honest, like the Psalmist? Not everyone has pious thoughts and feelings.

Bravo again James and I will also tell you this as well, “Kick ass!” Read the usually intelligible words of Jame Pate at http://jamesbradfordpate.blogspot.com/2008/03/reflections-on-malachi.html.

4 comments March 20, 2008

If You haven’t yet watched this movie…

See it NOW!!! This is a great movie. It’s about money, greed, manipulation, misanthropy, anger, murder, hypocrisy, abandonment,religious fantacism, religious ignorance and all that good stuff that we in the XCG tradition have been endlessly exposed to (with the exception of physical murder but there sure was a “spirit” of murder). I am darn glad that Daniel Day Lewis got his Academy Award for starring in this movie There Will Be Blood. Enjoy the couple clips below. For those who can’t see it in the theatres, you will get your chance to see it when the DVD release arrives on April 8th.

Add comment March 18, 2008

A Special Bill of Rights from Dennis

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Editor’s note: Thanks to Kscribe from his website which had the link to Dennis Diehl’s website which had this special article that he had written. All trapped in the bonds of Armstrongism (or for anyother restrictive religious group) is not only entitled to read the following about The Church Members Bill of Rights but LIVE IT!  The original print is at http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Dennis_Diehl. I just felt that this Bill of Rights needs to be spread EVERWHERE and read by EVERYONE as possible.

The following are basic human, religious and spiritual rights any person has as a member of any and all religious organizations or church congregations.

You have the right to expect the church to keep your personal contributions private and should be able to expect that any who deal with such things for accounting purposes will do the same.

You have the right to expect that your membership in any church or congregation is not contingent on how much you give or do not give. You should also expect that jobs, positions, opportunities or offices are not given based on the amount anyone gives to the church.

You have the right to say I can only give this even if it is not a tithe of your income gross or net.

You have the right not to be spiritually judged or have your loyalty or sincerity questioned based on what you are able or unable to give financially to the church.

You have the right to ask a Pastor if he checks tithes and offerings for any of the above reasons before giving to a church.

You have the right to say “I’m tired and won’t be there, “ to any and all activities, plays, fundraisers, studies, seminars, prayer groups, rehearsals, practices and sermons.

You have the right to say “I don’t care about that.”

You have the right to question the advice, counsel or sermon of any minister, elder, deacon or any other person in authority. You have the right to question authority and to still expect to be allowed to attend your church. You have the right to question a minister who declares himself one or both of the Two Witnesses of Revelation, a Prophet, the Supreme Watcher of Mankind for God, The Only True Apostle in this Age and any other title or position he can come up with to impress you as to why you need to support him. [Editor's note: Gerry, Dave, Ron---are you guys listening and paying attention?!!!]

You have the right to suggest a pastor get spiritual or psychological help should the need arise. You have the right tell him that the congregation is noticing a trend here.

You have the right to ask why the church believes what it does when the Bible might say otherwise, or why the Bible says something that the church practices that seems scary, weird, inappropriate for this time, out of date or controlling. You have the right to notice that ministers often quote scriptures out of context or fail to enforce or address the rest of the story that does not agree with the point they are trying to make.

You have the right to ask all the “how can that be,” “how could that happen,” “why does it say this here and that there,” questions you can come up and expect an intelligent answer. If you are told that you are using human reasoning, ask the pastor what kind of reasoning he uses. If he says “God’s,” find another church.

You have the right to not want elders, deacons or your friends accompanying the minister on visits to your home to talk to you.

You have the right to discuss or not discuss your life with the minister as you see fit.

You have the right to expect absolute confidentiality and for your story not to show up in the sermon next week, even though “I won’t say the name.”

You have a right to be called ahead of time when the pastor wants to ask about stopping over.

You have the right, when he calls to say, “I’m tired,” “I’m busy,” “No, but I appreciate the call,” without repercussions.

You have the right to keep a dirty home, grass not mowed perfectly, an older car, red in color and kids that don’t say “yes sir, nice to see you sir,” in just the right way.

You have the right to watch and read what you wish even if the pastor just got done bashing that particular program, movie or book from the pulpit in his sermon on “Demons in Your Home—Six Ways to Assure Your Eternal Death.”

You have the right to ask the pastor not to call on you at work, even if you own the business.

You have the right to say, “I can’t afford to take you to lunch.” “I can’t afford to give you free wood or brick.” “I can’t afford to fix your house up free,” “I can’t fix all your teeth,” to your pastor should he expect professional courtesies, even if he offers to do your funeral free.

You have a right to expect free use of your church for weddings and funerals.

You have the right to expect these usages are not dependent on you, your parents or children living a sinless life six months prior to the date of the event.

You have the right not to answer questions your pastor may ask you or your children about your sexual practices. If he insists, then insist that you all share together.

You have the right to not let the pastor inform you as to who you can and cannot date or marry.

You have the right to enjoy your sexuality free of church or pastoral approval. Something that is wrong for the pastor is not necessarily wrong for you in how you express yourself to your partner. There is no Bible prohibition against….well you know. And if there were, you’d have the right to disagree with that too.

You have the right to not share which or if you are taking medications of any sort with the pastor.

You have the right to take such medication and not be judged as having a lack of faith or trust in God to heal you.

You have the right to seek professional help without informing your Pastor of the nature of the help and you have the right to not be helped solely by the pastor under threat of repercussions.

You have the right to insist the pastor get professional help should the need arise and the man is causing more harm than good. You have the right to remind him that God does not directly speak to him nor express His will only through the mind of the pastor and that makes you uncomfortable if he thinks that is so.

You have the right to be wrong about a many things.

You have the right to believe you are correct about many things without repercussions. You have the right not to care about everything that others think you must care about to be a good Christian.

You have the right to tell the pastor he is wrong, mistaken or exaggerating.

You have the right to dress as you wish, wear the jewelry you wish and make up you wish or not wish without being labeled a whore or a goody goody.

You have the right to feel that dressing as if it was still 1957 and only watching Disney Movies or How the West Was Won as proof of your pureness is baloney. You have the right to not be told that the best times for entertainment, movies and TV was when the Pastor was a boy. You have the right to like the food he does not like and to not like the foods he does. You have the right to like the schools he doesn’t and not like the ones he does.

You have the right not to bear your soul to the ministers wife.

You have the right to like or not like, agree or not agree with the ministers wife.

You have the right to not view the world through the pastor’s eyes morally or politically. You have the right to hate the war while he believes the war in Iraq is God’s will and thinks it’s all in the Bible.

You have the right to expect him to speak clearly where he thinks the Bible speaks for us today and to walk slowly and drink cool water where it doesn’t.

You have the right to tell the pastor that that is his opinion and not necessarily the only true opinion on earth.

You have the right for you, your children, your partner and your friends to be themselves.

These are but a few of the rights any member of any Church, congregation or religious organization has. In short, you have the right to not be required to check your brains, your insights, your perspectives and your free will at the door to be welcome and a member of any church.

Editor’s note: Rock on Dennis and KICK ASS!!!

3 comments March 17, 2008

Two more blogs

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An old friend recently replied to me, “Long time, no write!” So true.  It has been about a week and a half ago that I posted anything here though I was glad that Byker Bob’s Intelligent Quote of The Day became the most commented (14) on my blog ever. Even if you don’t agree with everything he says, he always says something that is qute interesting and worth thinking about. You may have heard that Gavin Rumney has a sister blog called Otagosh, which talks about theology and theological issues which are not necessarily of an XCG nature. Gavin, I myself run two blogs: this one of course and my current affairs blog “The Way I See It Anyway” which I need to write something there and soon.  I know it can be a lot of work having two blogs but I will say to Gavin, “It is STILL worth it!” Speaking about blogs, a man by the name of Rick Ross who is a well-known cult expert has a blog called “Cult News From Rick Ross”. The most recent post is about Oprah Winfrey’s involvement in the  New Age movement. Her involvement is nothing new, I have watched her show for years and her theology is of that mode. I remember at first she didn’t like being called New Age but I think she has finally accepted the term. Rick Ross believes her further involvement in this movement by promoting books like The Secret (which I conclude is GOOD psychology—very BAD theology) and Eckert Tolle and his new book A New Earth has very serious ramifications which can no longer be ignored or take a casual glance. Rick Ross dares to subscribe a thought of an “Oprah Winfrey Cult” and rightfully warns “don’t drink the cool-aid.” I will add, is if anyone is pushing Winfreyism down your throat, run away from that person as far as you can.

Here’s Gavin’s sister blog at: http://otagosh.blogspot.com/

Rick Ross’ blog is at: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2294

5 comments March 15, 2008

A VERY Intelligent quote of the day from Byker Bob

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This is a question guaranteed to boggle the minds of anyone with Armstrongist pinnings.
First of all, imagine all of the farcical occurrences in the WCG, totally avoidable if the leaders had really been tuned into Jesus when He plainly stated that nobody, including Himself, knew when the end was coming.  Had they listened, you would not see all of the people with messiah complexes running around, proclaiming themselves to be end time Apostles, one of the two witnesses, Elijah or Elisha, etc. ad nauseum!  “The End” would not have been used to instill fear into people as a motivational tactic to make them single source their beliefs to a man, or organization of men.  There would have been no gunlaps, no cries for more money to finance the gasping out of that final message to warn the world.

Had this been the case, the church would have been able to preach the real gospel.  The one concerning Jesus Christ having died for our sins, the one in which Jesus Christ comes into our lives and lives His life through us, bringing many spiritual and physical blessings into our lives right now!

If we think this through, we begin to realize that if “the end” were simply a matter of making mathematical calculations, certainly Jesus would have known precisely when He was going to return to earth, split the Mount of Olives, and allow the living waters to burst forth, healing the world, and ushering in the new age, God’s Kingdom.   For centuries now, people such as William Miller, Herbert W. Armstrong, and HWA’s pupils, have been busy with their calculators, attempting to do something that Jesus Christ said could not be done!  They start with the premise that 6,000 years are allotted to mankind.  They then use the geneologies of the Old Testament to mathmatically calculate when Adam was created,  and add the time elapsed since Christ was born.  Or, they take clues from prophecies in the Book of Daniel, and assign arbitrary values to such things as the “time of the Gentiles”.  They add to this prophetic house of cards, by speculating that the letters to the churches contained in the Book of Revelation actually refer to church eras, being careful to pick the “best” era for themselves.  They factor in more extrabiblical information, like 19 year time cycles.  And, then, they preach their calculations as “revealed” or “inspired” truth to the stalwart followers, and get frustrated, because, guess what!  The end does not come.  So they recalculate or make excuses for their error, even blaming the members for not being ready.

If God had a timeline for the end, which could be mathematically calculated, not only would Jesus, the most intelligent man ever to walk the face of the earth, know how to do the math, all the angels, Satan, the demons, and any preacher with an eighth grade education would know how to calculate it!

The reason nobody CAN know it is that it’s not a matter of math!  I believe that God is going to make a judgement call, based on the condition of the planet He lovingly created for us, and the behavior of the majority of the people populating the earth.  It’s the only thing that makes sense, and the only reason why nobody else could know when the event will take place.  The examples in the Bible show that God interacts with mankind, based on man’s behavior, not on math!    When He senses that 1) the planet is about to be destroyed by man’s activities, or 2) mankind has become so depraved that it is no longer safe for the “good”  people, isnt’ that when He would logically pull the plug?

—Byker Bob making excellent points on J’s Shadows of WCG message board that dates DO NOT matter but how God relates to people MATTER when it comes to the second coming of Jesus Christ! Bravo BB, if only some in the splinters put aside their binary thinking and begin to grasp that concept!

14 comments March 4, 2008

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